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Wednesday, June 20, 2007

Are You Kidding Me?

This report is just ridiculous.

A woman priest is now Muslim AND Christian.

Sadly, her overseer "the Rt. Reverend Vincent Warner of Seattle, says that Rev. Redding's declaration that she is both a Christian and a Muslim to be exciting in terms of interfaith understanding."

What would lead to this kind of perspective? I don't think it's surprising that Rev. Redding said:
I don't think God said, "Let me send this special person so that I can kill him for the benefit of the rest of humanity." That's not the kind of sacrifice I think that God desires.
Once you've constructed the cross without penal substitutionary atonement, I guess a Muslim/Christian mix isn't that crazy.


  • At 9:03 PM, Blogger ~d said…

    it's so sad when a perceived leader is walking in the dark and tripping up those undiscerning ones who follow...and then gets praised for it.

  • At 9:42 PM, Blogger Brad said…

    It'll be interesting to see how well she's received in Mecca.

  • At 8:50 AM, Blogger Zach Doppelt said…

    This is more dangerous than I think we want to admit. Beliefs that were considered part of liberalism in the early twentieth century are now widely accepted in "conservative" evangelicalism, and stuff like this that even liberal theologians wouldn't touch before are now main place in mainline denominations. The church is not moving in a good direction.

  • At 9:41 AM, Blogger BReformed said…

    "What would lead to this kind of perspective?

    What leads to that perspective are unchecked wolves in pastoral roles who erode the church with the kind of ideology which promotes that one can be a "Christian-Buddhist" or that "movies preach".

  • At 12:42 PM, Blogger danny2 said…


    i'm thankful for all the bereans in our church that keep the preaching in check.


    we definitely seem to be traversing down the slippery slope, don't we? semper reformanda!


    it was somewhat a rhetorical question, but since you gave a bit of an answer, i'll give my take.

    i'd basically say what you are saying...it happens when we interpret the Bible with culture, rather than examinig culture with the Bible.

    yes, the emerging church movement (with your allussion to the mclaren quote) and the post modern obsession plays a role in this. when we start to see the Truth in all faith systems, and don't point out the error, we've gotten ourselves in trouble.

    to get even more controversial, the problem began when reverand ANN could be ordained in the first place. the perspective that allows for women pastors (by arguing that it is a cultural issue) shows they have already put culture in the same authority as Scripture. (peppo is right. islam would not tolerate such compromise and would also take a much stronger stance on a woman in ministry.)

    the major consequence is the gospel! eventually, things have been so diluted that she can claim that Christ on the cross is not the kind of sacrifice God would desire. suddenly, it pleased God to crush Him (Isa 53) must mean something else because our cultural perspective demands something else.

    this is why the Word of God must be our guide. i'm not critiquing secular illustrations (as long as they are used illustratively), new techniques or fresh methods. i'm not a trogladite...

    it is a discussion about the Word of God and its sole authority to preserve the message of the gospel.

  • At 8:18 AM, Blogger ~d said…

    i looked up "troglodyte" to see if i was one or not.

    nope, though in the mornings i sometimes LOOK like one...


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