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Tuesday, October 16, 2007

Stand: Session 4

I'm briefly summarizing the messages from Desiring God's most recent conference.

Certainties That Drive Enduring Ministry, Part 2

John MacArthur continues his message from 2 Corinthians 3 & 4, having listed four certainties in his previous message, he lists another five:
    5. Embraces the reality that the results of his ministry do not depend on him.--2 Corinthians 4:3-4
    6. Embraces the reality of his own insignificance.--2 Corinthians 4:7
    7. Embraces the benefits of suffering.--2 Corinthians 4:8-11
    8. Embraces the need for bold conviction.--2 Corinthians 4:13
    9. Embraces eternity as his priority.--2 Corinthians 4:16-18
MacArthur spent a significant amount of time on point five. He laid out that the major concern with the market-driven church model is that it assumes that consumer barriers are our major obstacle of bringing a person to Christ. However, MacArthur reminds us how the Bible describes this task:
    Preaching the gospel is "foolish"
    because we are preaching to those who are dead and blind
    a message that is a stumbling block or folly
    while we, as messengers are foolish, weak, base and despised.
Numeric Review: 9 of 10 (highly recommended)


Other Reviews: Sessions 1 & 2, Session 3


  • At 8:57 AM, Blogger Zach Doppelt said…

    If his understanding of the Scripture and preaching in general is correct, which many would debate and argue against, then it is quite possible a majority of evangelical preachers are absolutely and completely wrong in how they present all of their teaching.

    Unfortunately (or fortunately), he truly is a divider. As much as I desire unity in the body of Christ, the unity must be based on the gospel message, and if believers don't preach the same gospel, there can be no unity... I appreciate many of your posts, because we cannot pretend that we all agree on biblical truth. The fact is, evangelicals are as divided now as ever, and what unity is happening is often by compromise, rather than doctrinal integrity. Bottom line, we all have a lot of work to do...

  • At 4:08 PM, Blogger danny2 said…

    isn't it amazing that macarthur is considered the divisive one, when if we all would have just held true to the truth we would have had unity.

    he's divisive for pointing out that the unity has already been lost?

  • At 11:33 AM, Blogger Zach Doppelt said…

    There are some things I disagree with him on, but overall his intention is to be doctrinally sound... I think he is a good expositor.

    It is so odd that some of what is taught today in conservative circles would have been considered heretical (in the "this is not truth" sort of way) as recently as 20 to 30 years ago...

    By the way, keep Shannon and I in prayer because we have an important set of "meetings" planned this weekend.

  • At 2:08 PM, Blogger Keith said…

    MacArthur preached this at the FGBC Natl. Conf. in 1995. I still have my scribbled notes - they're the same as what you've put forth here. He also did a version of this at Grace Seminary, I think in 1979. As an aside, a lot of the material comes from A.T. Robertson's book The Glory of the Ministry. Since folks are missing out on Lloyd-Jones these days (apparently), they are probably missing out on Robertson too. These should be required reading for pastoral training.


  • At 11:22 PM, Blogger danny2 said…


    you knew of ml-j and didn't tell me to check him out!!!!

    i'm outraged!

    of course, i'll check out "the glory of the ministry" and you'll probably be off the hook.


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